Dating of the mahabharata by dr v vartak

And I am convinced that it has to do with deracination. Otherwise, you might be considered backward or something like that. And the simple answer I will give you, too many to list. I want to share with you an example something very simple from everyday life. What constitutes a revolutionary scientific evidence? What is not scientific; I want to make you familiar with. We can also prove with the same force that Mahabharata war, just based on 23 references of Bhishma Nirvana, did not happen a day late than 4700 BC or before 7000 BC.

Other people talk about their epics, talk about their history with great pride. Quickly after the talk, you might ask this question and I will quickly give the high-level answer. So, Corroboration is or the validation is how we solve this problem and falsification removes the Status Quo. I will tell you in simple ways how science progresses. Well, I was invited to two conferences and that’s how the whole thing started and that is how we all are here. So again this set of observation also instantly falsifies any date that falls after 4500 BC.

Science doesn’t progress as much by insisting or by proving that this is how it is. But it definitely progresses by proving or disproving existing understanding or existing explanation. They are more or less the same, they happened to same. It says alright but there are only the two sets of observations! But no we have many others, you can just go through seasons and go on and on. There are 400 blogs that I have written, essentially responding to the questions like this. Ramayana has more than 500 astronomy observations, again we can split them into two categories.

Now, you would imagine, all these one thirty plus researchers would do something about it, right, it exists. Second person, Bharat Ratna Mahamahopadhyaya Pandrang Vaman Kane and he said that this is something impossible in the very order of nature, “astronomically speaking.” So, he also said someone might have inserted. You know what he did, he took this last line and tried to combine this line with another line of another Adhyaya of Mahabharat. You find all stars rotate around pole star and how do they rotate? This track, a track of one star and I will say this star is walking ahead of next to that star. There is another astronomy phenomenon, where earth’s axis points to in the sky. Mahabharata did not happen for last six thousand years. Bharatacharya C V Vaidya, Lokmanya Tilak gave him the title for his great work on Mahabharata. Someone might have introduced it afterwards and that happens in our literature! He has done a lot of good work in this area but I will tell you, you relate that word, is that he tried to do some “jugaad “ while trying to explain this observation. So, I am going to quickly explain the precession of the equinoxes, what that phenomenon is. How many of you can identify pole star in principle? So, you will notice that pole star, and what you will notice, if you sit there in a nice comfortable chair for a long time. It is fixed but it is fixed for maybe one thousand or two thousand years, it is not fixed forever. Now what I am doing is, I am taking the same circle placing the position of those same stars. We will start here earth axis at an angle pointing towards the sky, NCP a star next to it in our times it Polaris. To this everything will be same except now, except now, earth’s axis will be pointing towards Brahma rishi/Abhijit. Thirteen thousand years ago Brahma rishi/Abhijit was our pole star, not Polaris. That’s how you will see, see if you go backward you will see different years and different stars, they will be considered pole stars. Pay attention, that line has split that circle into 3 categories. So, when I started working with it, my goal was to see if it is true; my goal was to actually disapprove that date. The first one we can say, that particular curve, we can say the Vasishtha would appear walking ahead of Arundhati and I will show you in few minutes, why? Vasishtha has already gone ahead crossed the meridian, Arundhati is behind. So now back to the triangle of science if you want to bring this all together, what will we do? That anyone of you should able to go back and test it. So, we start with the explanation, what is the explanation? But when somebody finally proved, actually showed that it is possible, the question is, when was it possible, when was the case?

So now that I have provided you the evidence, what do you think? I am going to draw a line that goes through Arundhati and Vasishtha and crosses that circle of precession twice. Vartak, one of the four names I mentioned, he proposed it in 1980 sometime. That line has split the circle into 3 different phenomena. Just looking at this picture, will everyone agree that here you would see Vasishtha walking ahead of Arundhati? If you look at the astronomy simulation that vertical green line think of that is 12 o clock in your clock, it’s the meridian in the astronomy. At the meridian both crossing together, no one ahead no one behind. The place of Dhruva Tara is the point A or B and Vasishtha and Arundhati are walking around A or B and all other stars of that area too. And now I am going to draw a line from this point of North Pole in 5561 BC to Arundhati and Vasishtha. Vasishtha yet has to cross meridian and that was the scenario that was happening from 11091 BC until 4508 BC, until 6500 years ago. Those people who thought it is not possible, they said somebody had inserted it. It doesn’t matter whether it’s 1923, 1924, 25, 26, 35, 36. I want to show you the evidence that Ramayana didn’t happen even a day late than 10,000 B. Essentially it didn’t happen in the last 12000 years. It’s very slow and it completes one circle in 26000 years. Thirteen thousand years either we go backward or forward thirteen thousand years. C, plus two thousand, that’s thirteen thousand approximately. That’s the kind of decisive evidence we talk about and we are going to talk today, two specific examples of such kind of decisive evidence. It will not tell you exactly when they might have come together. But it will tell you, I want to convince you based on those two pieces of evidence that Mahabharata war didn’t happen in anytime, even a day late than 4500 B. I also want to convince you that when it comes to the Ramayana. So just an example you went through Lokmanya Tilak, Swatantraveer Savarkar and Mahatma Gandhi prediction. Because every star is going in an anti-clockwise direction. If there is a star we called it as Dhruva Tara (Polaris), in this case. It’s a very slow motion like a ‘top’ you know that you play with and that’s what we called the precession of the axis. When would our earth axis point to that other star, Brahma rishi/ Abhijit? You compute the consequences, the predictions and you compare the consequences with the actual observations, experiments, nature, simulations and you reach the conclusion. You need to ask three questions and this is not about Mahabharata and Ramayana. You need to ask three questions anytime you see a claim. The first question is, you can ask that person what is your ? Then you need to ask two questions again, very straight forward. He says all science problems just start with a guess, you have a problem you try to come out with an explanation. Now, what you do if there are many researchers claiming to have an answer to the same problem? There are more than 800 astronomy references together between Ramayana & Mahabharata and my theory simply says all the astronomy references from these two epics are actual, factual, visual observations of the sky of that time. Metaphysical doesn’t mean it’s false if it’s not true. It means it’s objectively testable and the other side is not objectively testable. You should feel passionate about the question yourself; that you start searching and that was my journey with the two observations that I am going to share with you. Do you know how many claims are there about Mahabharata? The manipulative, because it appears scientific because whatever little evidence they are testing. Suppose Mahabharata says if the war started on Monday and some researcher claims the certain date and his first day also happens to be Monday. Next, again I am going to talk about the astronomical evidence. All of Mahabharata has close to 200 astronomy observations and I had in my book, I have listed each one of them. A Certain position of the sun like 21st of December now in 10 days, it will repeat after a year. In fact, in astronomy, everything is repetitive and not quite and we will see that side. That’s also somewhat repetitive phenomenon but it has a longer time span. The phenomenon is known as “Precession of equinoxes” and I am going to briefly describe it. And a part of that list, he mentions many astronomy observation. Vartak, he is a medical doctor, now 83 years old, based in Pune.